This Is When You Know

This article was published in the June 16, 2008, edition of The New York Observer.

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Best. Day. Ever.

This is how I found out a good friend of mine—we’ll call her Lauren—was engaged: I was at her birthday party, and I ran into this other girl I know through mutual friends, and when I asked her how she knew Lauren, she said, “I’m a talent manager and her fiancé is my client.”

I nodded and pretended I knew what she was talking about. When she walked away, I asked the guy I’d been talking to—we’ll call him Max—if he had heard the news. He looked wide-eyed. “Did you see a ring on Lauren’s finger? I didn’t even look.”

I went over to Lauren and smacked her on the arm with a paper plate. “You know how I found out you were engaged? From Brian’s manager!” She giggled and showed us her left hand. “It just happened yesterday! I was going to tell you guys, I swear.”

I didn’t know that many people at Lauren’s party; since she started medical school in September, I’ve barely seen her, and most of the people there were her med-school classmates. I took refuge in talking to Max, who I sort of knew in college. When we started talking, the topic of my boyfriend came up, and then it came up that we were living together, and then Max looked at my left hand and said, “Oh, I was just checking to see if you had a ring. But you guys aren’t engaged?” This was a question-statement.

“Uh, no,” I said.

He told me he had moved to New York and into an apartment with his girlfriend, who was a lawyer, but they’d broken up soon afterward, and he’d been living with roommates ever since.

 

I recently got back in touch with another friend—we’ll call her Catherine—I hadn’t seen since college, except a couple years ago when we ran into each other in the West Village, right after she’d moved back to New York from Los Angeles. Anyway, we’ve been hanging out. She’s single. The other day she was telling me that most of her friends from college (except for me and a couple others) are married, and most of the married friends have at least one kid. Catherine was in a sorority, and I’m convinced that there’s a correlation between sorority membership and getting married by 27 and having the first kid by 29. My younger sister, who is 24 and was in a sorority, seems like she will bear this theory out, though she got offended when I proposed it. Then I found out she had shown our mom engagement rings on the Tiffany’s Web site, just in case her boyfriend should turn to my mom for advice.

So. Catherine. Apparently, most of these sorority sisters of hers live uptown and work in finance or marketing or law. A couple of them don’t have jobs anymore. She is their “downtown,” “artsy” friend because she lives in the West Village and is in graduate school.

 

At a wedding the other day, the bride threw the bouquet into a scrum of women pretending not to care. A particularly tall, blond coltish one caught it; she seemed to take it as a good omen. Later, as everyone was leaving, she was heard asking if she should go back into the party tent to find it.

 

A friend of mine—we’ll call her Natalie—is moving in with her boyfriend in brownstone Brooklyn, even though everything’s so fucking expensive these days that you might as well just move back to Manhattan. She met this guy at work; at the time, she was involved in a torturous long-term relationship with another guy, one of those relationships people get into in their early 20s and then wake up one day and, hell, they’re 28 or 29 and nothing has changed, he’s still the same guy they were vaguely annoyed with all those years ago, except now they live together and he does things like punch walls when he’s upset.

Those kinds of relationships are always good to get out of before it’s too late, and by too late I mean that both parties get in so deep that they end up just saying to hell with it and getting married, which is sort of what happened to this other friend of mine —she’d been with the guy pretty much since we graduated college, and then they got married in this beautiful ceremony and had a really fun wedding party, and the next thing I know I’m running into her on the subway and she’s blurting out that she and Paul are getting divorced and she’s dating a mutual friend of theirs and Paul never wants to see her again. She says no one has ever made her feel the way her new boyfriend does. Meanwhile, Natalie told me that she’s been trying to get her boyfriend to go down to City Hall and just get this over with.

 

My friend Ellen has been dating this guy for years. I mean, really, ages. She’s a few years older than he is, and he once told her that he didn’t want kids, really, really didn’t want kids, and he knew she did, and so he didn’t want to be holding her back. So he didn’t break up with her, but merely encouraged her to break up with him, which she didn’t. Now they’re long-distance, and even if she does still want kids, she says that she doesn’t. It’s sort of like those other friends of mine who have been with their boyfriends for a million years, but, you know, he’s from some country where they don’t believe in marriage and so now she doesn’t, either.

 

Another friend of mine has been dating a married guy for four years.

 

I know this other girl who’s been involved with this guy for the past few months. A couple weeks ago she told me over IM that he had broken up with her, but that it was slightly confusing because they were not, technically or to anyone’s knowledge, “going out.” I suggested that maybe that meant he just didn’t want to sleep with her anymore, and a few lines later she lamented her predilection for what she called the “RETARDED GO NOWHERE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE RETARDED IMMATURE DUDE.”

I think they’re still sleeping together.

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Anonymous (not verified) says:

oh dear. those light in the loafers straights. what's next, bestiality? polyamory? oversharing?

katiebakes (not verified) says:

This was fantastic! Loved it, Doree.

karion (not verified) says:

Doree, that was really well done. So very well done. Love the tone, love the pacing, the style, everything.

SE (not verified) says:

I don't understand what the point of this article is. I agree that people rush into marriage, but what's your conclusion? Is there more to this article that I am missing?

PeterWKnox (not verified) says:

If you need more of a takeaway from this piece other than its strong writing, wonderful details, poetic sense, a slice of life/dating/relationships in New York, the sad state of marriage/expectations vs being actually happy, and the way some people will change themselves to avoid real change, then maybe the NY "Observer" isn't what you're looking for...

PeterWKnox (not verified) says:

If you need more of a takeaway from this piece other than its strong writing, wonderful details, poetic sense, a slice of life/dating/relationships in New York, the sad state of marriage/expectations vs being actually happy, and the way some people will change themselves to avoid real change, then maybe the NY "Observer" isn't what you're looking for...

Allison (not verified) says:

Hey, how did you sneak into my head? Seriously. I'm 28, and people are getting sprogged up all around me. Mind you, half of them were threatening divorce a year into marriage but now that the kid is on the way they claim they couldn't be happier.

Anonymous (not verified) says:

Are these other commentators friends of Doree? "that was fantastic" "really poetic" "strong writing, wonderful details, poetic sense, a slice of life/dating/relationships in New York"
WTF? Really? I kept looking for a point here, which I believe even the New York Observer hasn't yet abandoned. Instead it reads like something the NY Press would have published five years ago. Pointless.

Anonymous (not verified) says:

Did this article have a point?

Anonymous (not verified) says:

I think the point is that Doree sees the Bushnell legacy at the Observer and now wants an HBO special about herself, her three demented single friends, and her clothing?

Lexy (not verified) says:

This article seems to have no point and is completely non-sequitir, even if the author believes she is talking about marriage and commitment, you do have an obligation to make a point. A writer can't converge a bunch of run-on sentences and write an article as if she is free writing in her diary. Atrocious.

Anonymous (not verified) says:

Doree, I faithfully read your postings on Gawker when you were there. Loved your insight, your quips, you humor.

And as much as I love commiserating with other single girls here in the City, I'm desperately trying to piece this article together. "When You Know" is the title. When you know what, exactly? I could go on, but I'll let other commenters lament.

I don't expect much from the Observer, but I usually expect to "get" what you write.

Just sayin'.

Anonymous (not verified) says:

Oh, I get it. People in their late 20s are STARTING TO GET MARRIED. Some of them wisely, some not. Some might GET DIVORCED. Seriously. What was this about??

sac (not verified) says:

You typed this in the wrong place. I'm hoping.

Anonymous (not verified) says:

"My friend," "My friend," "I know this other girl"....
Whatever happened to transitional words?

Anonymous (not verified) says:

"My friend," "My friend," "I know this other girl"....
Whatever happened to transitional words?

e (not verified) says:

damned if you do, damned if you don't, damned for everywhere in between? ah, "love" has not changed.

Anonymous (not verified) says:

What drivel.

Old (not verified) says:

As an Female Old, perhaps I can give you a little historical perspective on these dilemmas of mating/not mating/marriage/not marriage that now give you a sense of unease and angst.

Brilliant observation #1: yours is not the first generation to go through all of this, and nobody has ever figured it out.

Brilliant observation #2: it is equally hard to maintain a good marriage [kids or no kids] as it is to maintain a good "live-in" relationship.

After more than 40 years of going through all this [live-in relationships, marriages, divorces, single parenthood], I have seen a few admirable marriages and a few admirable non-married relationships lasting 30 years or more. Key word being "few".

Are they worth the all hard work and effort? Hard to say. I would suggest one more thing: forget about the crappy engagement ring. They are worth less than nothing.

And, I think you are quite a writer. Please carry on.

Anonymous (not verified) says:

WTF indeed. If this is what it takes to get a column I'm going to through my hat in the ring...or wait, I don't have a ring...or do I? OMG!

Boogie (not verified) says:

Excellent article, and I definitely caught the point.
It's hard to say exactly when someone is ready for a serious commitment -- that is, if they're really ready for it at all.

I have to agree that there are quite a few people out there who jump in with both feet without considering the consequences of doing so.

Very well written.

kim d (not verified) says:

I think we know the same people! Crazy funny and right-on accurate. It's all a mystery to me.

Anonymous (not verified) says:

The point is that love/marriage/commitments are confusing and don't fit neatly into pre-conceived notions of how life works. (So why does everything in print have to fit into freshman MLA Handbook ideas about writing? There's something to be said for writing that encourages introspection.)

I think this was spot on. I like the tone.

Dawn (not verified) says:

"one of those relationships people get into in their early 20s and then wake up one day and, hell, they’re 28 or 29 and nothing has changed, he’s still the same guy they were vaguely annoyed with all those years ago, except now they live together and he does things like punch walls when he’s upset"

OMG you know my ex-boyfriend!

caroline duke (not verified) says:

i'm looking for a jump?

while i don't doubt the writer's talent, this is more like the ramblings in a teenager's diary - pointless and embarrassing.

let me know when the editors go back on duty.

koffi t. (not verified) says:

What terrible, nonsensical blabbering! I loved it more than life itself!

Karol (not verified) says:

I'm actually embarrassed for the Observer. This was just terrible.

Noony (not verified) says:

"Well-written"? Um, *no*. It's not. Nor is it particularly funny or insightful.

mp (not verified) says:

What this article does:
1. Point out that the author has insecure, stupid friends and acquaintances.
2. Another single attacks people in relationships. Bitter much?

Anonymous (not verified) says:

i'm 20 and i get what she's doing here. people who criticize the writing obviously don't "get" the piece as they've clearly never read any of doree's writing before.

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