Politics

Altitude Drop For Lieberman the Hawk

When Connecticut’s voters returned him to the Senate as an Independent, a new power-broker, coveted equally by both parties, had been born. Yesterday it became clear just how much his influence has waned.

Joe Lieberman and John McCain discuss the Iraq war back in 2005.
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Joe Lieberman and John McCain discuss the Iraq war back in 2005.


Early last week, a distressing, if not entirely unsurprising, Newsweek poll found that fully 40 percent of American adults continue to believe that Iraq was directly involved in the 9/11 attacks.

It must, then, have been this exasperating chunk of the electorate that Joe Lieberman had in mind when he declared Sunday on ABC’s “This Week” that Democrats are doomed in the 2008 presidential race unless they re-embrace the Iraq War.

I think that’s the best tradition of our party, and if we don’t recapture it ... the Democratic candidate is going to have a hard time winning that election next year,” Mr. Lieberman said, likening his own hawkish Iraq posture to Harry Truman, John F. Kennedy, Hubert Humphrey, and Henry “Scoop” Jackson – all of them much too deceased to protest such a questionable comparison.

And if losing to the Republicans isn’t enough, Mr. Lieberman also made clear that any Democratic nominee who favors “retreat” risks losing his personal endorsement. After offering praise for Republicans John McCain and Rudy Giuliani for showing independence from their party’s base (and conveniently ignoring the abuse Ron Paul has suffered from the G.O.P. establishment for his war opposition), Connecticut’s junior Senator told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos: “It does seem to me now that the leading Democratic candidates for President are competing with each other to see which one can more quickly pull more of our troops out of Iraq, while our troops are there fighting and now succeeding with a lot on the line for the future security of the United States of America.”

In truth, the front-running Democratic candidates, all of whom favor a withdrawal of American troops from Iraq, are doing just fine ignoring Mr. Lieberman’s electoral prescription. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and John Edwards all generally hold leads over the most likely Republican nominees. Moreover, surveys show that voters lopsidedly prefer a generic, unnamed Democrat to an unnamed Republican for President. With President Bush’s approval ratings in the toilet, thanks almost entirely to Iraq, the next election is the Democrats’ to lose.

In all, Mr. Lieberman’s “This Week” appearance lasted about 11 minutes, and if anything became clear in that time it’s that his influence over the national political debate is waning – a decline that not many foresaw last November, when Connecticut’s voters returned him to the Senate, prompting talk that a new power-broker, coveted equally by both parties, had been born.

Given the Senate’s partisan balance – 49 Republicans, 49 Democrats (one still recuperating from a December cerebral hemorrhage), and two tie-breaking independents who caucus with the Democrats – Democrats are still technically at Mr. Lieberman’s mercy, their fragile control of the chamber dependent on his continued willingness to live up to his campaign pledge to side with his old party for organizational purposes.

But it’s now apparent that they need nothing more than that from him. Republicans have labored to portray Mr. Lieberman’s defeat in last year’s Senate primary as evidence that the Democratic Party has been over-run by weak-willed McGoverniks, a contention that Mr. Lieberman, in making reference to Democrats’ past vulnerabilities on foreign policy and national security issues, sought to reinforce on Sunday.

That game, however, has ceased to work. In years past – 2004 and 2002, say – a public association with Mr. Lieberman was helpful to Democrats, a reassurance to a more hawkish electorate that they were as “tough” as the G.O.P. But in 2007, embracing Mr. Lieberman’s intransigence is a decided political liability – evidenced most startlingly by a recent poll that found that even 58 percent of Republicans in Iowa want a troop withdrawal in the next six months. When, as he did on Sunday, Mr. Lieberman uses a national television interview to dust off old attacks on the Democratic Party’s foreign policy credentials while at the same time actually declaring that “the surge is working,” it only benefits his former party’s standing with the war-wary public. There are few, if any Democrats, quaking at his threat to endorse a Republican in ’08. Next Page >

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In my opinion, every thing that happens in the middle east is placed by Senator Lieberman along side Israel. Then evaluated by him as either benign to Israel's well-being or dangerous to the it. This I believe colors his intransigence and judgement on Iraq.

lmstein says:

We have 49 U.S. Senators. Joseph Lieberman is the Senator from Israel. That's unfortunate enough. What is more frightening is that many Senators, including New York's two Senators and supposedly anti-war ex-Senator Edwards, are on AIPAC's payroll. Neither the Democrats nor Republicans control our government.

By the time the Dick/Bush foreign policy really takes hold to cause chaos in the Middle East at uncontrolled proportions for which no amount of capital or military hardware will fix, Lieberman will be seen as one of the worst Senators of all time along with McCain. Is there anything about Israel's existence that does not involve violence towards its neighbors? It seems perfectly natural that Lieberman would declare war on Iran for Israel via the US because he follows the Israeli foreign policy to irradiate and depopulate its neighbors with Depleted Uranium weapons. What is really behind Lieberman's sinister smirk is the collective suicide of the Israeli population as they contaminate themselves with low level Nuclear weapons (spent nuclear waste) by spreading radiation amongst themselves and destroying their own military (much like the USA). Lieberman has no strategy but suicide for his genetic roots. Lieberman sucks up to Bush blindly like AG Gonzales. I am sickened by the lack of humanity in Lieberman for his lack of vision for the US or for Israel. He exists for only for his own self aggrandizing.

lthuedk says:

I don't believe AIPAC to be the absolutely Zionist.org many think it is. It was infiltrated as any good-intentioned interest by those who forgot the meaning and thrust of the phrase, Never Again. Those infiltrators, now prosecuted, somehow lost sight of the bottom line on humanitarianism and historical perspective and, through their acts, helped commit a genocide in the Middle East.

http://www.light-to-dark.com/genocide_forgiven.html

It's as if there are blind eyes and deaf ears when it comes to the liberal sector in Israel. Their predicament is much like ours in the U.S., with their share of extremist fanatics on the right making their lives miserable and uncertain, and creating an ongoing humanitarian crisis.

Lieberman, I believe, is caught somewhere in or near the Zionist loop and, like others, is bound to compromises that cost lives. Hillary now finds herself in the uncomfortable if not intractible position of a deadly alliance that serves no one but big corporate interests.

http://www.light-to-dark.com/soda_jerk.html

Senator Pat Roberts, in my opinion, has caused exponentially more damage than any of the three above, since he willfully and with utter disregard for the Republic betrayed the sacred trust of the people as gatekeeper of the 9-11 commission. He has big problems.

http://www.light-to-dark.com/flying_moles_over_dc.html

Did the American people truly believe the commission would reveal what really happened when it was cloned from the Zionist cloth?

From his nullified position, Senator Lieberman serves no one now but himself, a possible pledge, and an idea that has expired. He should know this and re-engage new ideas as rapidly as he disengages from dead-end solutions-including his conflictive ties to the defense industry.

I read the article, and my question regarding the comments on this site is: Where the hell is Israel mentioned in the article that the commentators keep talking about.
Quit blaming Israel for aholes like Lieberman and Bush. Israel can take care of itself; it doesn't need to be the excuse for American Imperialism.

Let's talk war, REAL war, between Israel and it's wonderful peace-loving neighbors. Last years Hezbollah vs. Israel was NOT a war. It was between Israel and a bunch of sickies. Let's talk war between Israel and it's neighboring countries if one of them decides to attack.. War today is who controls the air, and Israel is way ahead of its enemies when it comes to air force. You want to talk about soldiers and equipment; Israel is better armed and organized than all it's enemies combined.

The favorite weapon of war mongers like King George and LIEberman is nuclear. Well guess what, NUKES are worthless as a weapon for a civilized world. Once the nuclear option is used by any side, the world is over as we know it. There will be nothing left to fight for. Nukes are a 1 time weapon; the response of the other party using nukes is the beginning of a very quick end.

So, why is Israel's security always the excuse for American Imperialism. Iraq is American imperialism, not the rescue of the Iraqi people from Sadaam. Also, 90% of what King George says happened under Sadaam had taken place More than 10 years ago.

Sk8nfool says:

Lieberman is part of the old school warmongers, with a strategy of undermine and dirty trick your enemies, all the while keeping them stuck in place. And he plays the old school fear card, saying anything short of agression is a sign of weakness. That is really a sign that he is backed into a corner, and he wants us to believe we are backed into a corner with him, with no option but to fight forever.
The new school is, empower your enemies. Let them take over if they won the election. It's better to have a state led by Hamas vowing to wipe Irael off the map than a million ragtag cells of angry teenage refugees vowing to wipe Israel off the map. A state can be negotiated with on a constructive engagement basis. Peace is not made between friends, it is made between democratically led countries.

HEh says:

Israel can take care of itself.
ocdemocrat

My friend you are living in a fantasy world.
Israel would not exist today without the $3 billion + annual hand out we give them.

Save your nonsense for the mindless twits that watch Fox news.

Joe Lieberman is a great American. He is not afraid to stand up to his political party, whether it be the Democrats, the Republicans, or the Likud.

We should be praising this man, not punishing him.

Blanca DeBree
http://blancadebree.blogspot.com

Just because you say it so sweetly, it doesn't make it so. How can death worshipers be great americans?

wagonjak says:

Dear Blanca DeBraindead-
Joe is a Great American? Where the heck did you lose your mind?
In some great Republican body-snatching raid?

Joe is a treacherous little lying parasite...

End of Story...

Lieberman, of no importance to the American electorate.

Are you saying "silent coup" of the United States Government?

Blanca,

Is Lieberman representing the Likud? Did the Likud return Lieberman to the US Senate as an independent? How important was the financial influence of New York City's Michael Bloomberg in this plot?

How many "so called" independents will now come out of the wood work?

LIEBERMAN IS NOT A GREAT AMERICAN.... he is an imposter, representing foreign interest? A "mole"...who managed with the help of others to infiltrated one of the highest governmental bodies of the United States of America.

End of Story...

frank67 says:

Lieberman is a horse's posterior. No wait, that's being mean to horses! He's more like a Newt - you know, a small lizard you can step on! Talk about getting two dopes with one stone...

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